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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

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No it's not an operator who picked up a phone it was the law firm.

Yes it's clear you do not have anything else to do, we all understand that very much, your posts show that.

If you trully feel my calling them meant nothing and that I just talked to a mindless person in a cubicle, then why are you so worked up over this.

If the law firm is having people answer the phone who who can do nothing, but just make people who call them like me feel good they why are you so worked up again? Why all of your posts about how this is wrong, the paint by #'s,, slam dunk their hurting victioms.

Look we really and truly did not place the ad's, you need to calm down take a deep breath, maybe go outside get some fresh air. Maybe even find something that doesn't work you up so much to do and then call the law firm.

If you feel the guy you are talking to is a mindless idiot sitting in a cubicle you you can ask to speak to someone over him, and then someone over him.. Also you can go to their web sight and email them. And if you will not do that why are you so worked up over this, if you truly feel that when you call you can't talk to anyone that matters, than this is not a true law firm that you need to worry about.

Now take derp breaths, stop being so worked up, and clam down and call them.

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

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Richard I didn't put any words into your mouth I read them your posts the word's you wrote.

Yes I told them that you felt one poster said it's a slam dunk, and I also told them what that poster really said. Also the paint by #'s thing I told them all. I read them your posts so I wouldnot be trusting your word's.

Now quit getting yourself so worked up and call them.

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

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Yes Richard I did, I hold then everything, I read them your posts. They said they know what they are doing but they are worried about you and your how upset you are sounding.

You sound so worked up. They want you to call so they can put your mind to ease.

Just call them instead of debating us,it's not doing you any ggod.

Again we didn't place the ad's they did. We were merely saying what we hope might happen and you came on trying to scare people into believing this is a lost cause, an uphill battle, it will take years if it ever work's. You are afraid for the victims that they are going to use cases that the victims are fragile, just so they can win big cases. That post of yours they really want to talk to you about.

They do not want to hurt anyone especially the victims and for you to indicate that they would they really want you to call so they can asure you that is not their intention.

Just call!

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2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

by breakfast of champions in

my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

pretty telling.. .

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Richard they are there now you can call them instead of getting so worked up posting here.

Calm down take a deep breath and call them, stop getting so worked up with us on this board, we didn't place the ad's they did call them.

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

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Thanks outlaw you made me laugh.

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

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Richard they are there now call them, you are way too worked up, I don't think you should wait until Monday, I am really worried about you the way you are posting.

I called and talked to them about my hall, I read them some of your posts they said for you to call. Quit stressing and just call.

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2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

by breakfast of champions in

my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

pretty telling.. .

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PRichard Richard

Please call the law firm, you were offered that someone thought you were mental, by coming back and back trying to make your point when you have clear options it's making you look really like you are obsessing and not taking care of yourself. Please I beg of you call the law firm.

I did call them and they were really nice, I told them what happened in my hall how we had 3 child molesters, I also mentioned you and told them how worked up you are that you are convinced that this could harm victims instead of helping them.

They asked for you to call. I told them I did not know you or your name, just that you are on a web sight that I read, but that you are extremely worried about this, and you keep posting over and over and over how worried you are. They said that I should post for you to call them.

They honestly are really nice. So call them.

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

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Richard like I said on the thread by BoC you really need to call the law firm.

You are way to obsessed about this and frustrated, for your own sanity I beg you to call the law firm.

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2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

by breakfast of champions in

my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

pretty telling.. .

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Thank you Jaun for your encouraging word's.

And as I was working this afternoon. I thought that if Richard is so sure that this is such a unattainable battle why is he wasting his time with us on this thread, since he has such vast knowledge and does not want the victims to go through even more pain. THAN CALL THE LAW FIRM! Call them tell them all the worries he has spent the time he has put into this thread. He clearly knows more than that law firm does that his posts indicate, so Richard put your money where your mouth is and call them, stop wasting your time with us who are so stupid that some call this a slam dunk. Since this is so important for you to put a stop to what you clearly are feeling is insanity by posting over and over and over how this is such a long shot that probably will never have a chance. Call them and tell them how you know so much more than they do and how this is just not going to ever work.

For thoes who might take me seriously, I am just frustrated that Richard is trying to discourage everyone.

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2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

by breakfast of champions in

my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

pretty telling.. .

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Again Richard what is your true point? I think anyone with an ounce of brain's knows this is not going to be easy. It's giving to be Hell. Most people really do get that l, really Richard.

The point is someone is at LEAST TRYING!

Most people who have been abused are so timid and afraid, most do not have the courage to stand up for anything much less their abouser's. You keep coming on this thread saying how hard this is going to be it's going to be an uphill battle, it won't be easy, the Watchtower is not going to roll over and die.

I get that I really and honestly do get that it is going to be pure hell. But to keep hammering it over and over and over and over the way you have on this thread you are going to scare them from even trying.

If that's what you are hoping to accomplish you've done a great job.

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